Dance on the Eve of Destruction?
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Yes, I truly believe we are in the last days of civilization, as we know it, and I am deeply concerned at our personal and national choices that seem bent on self-destruction, and sigh and cry over our imminent famine, destruction and houses left desolate (Ezek. 9:4), and express righteous indignation over it all, heart-sick (Ezek. 6:11).Quote:
If you truly believe the "last days" are near, and that everything is coming to a close, then why are you so uptight? |
Are you "uptight" when you grieve for somebody you know and love and see they just won't listen to reason and insist on learning the hard way, or actually agree with you but won't change their ways and refuse to straighten up, or are resigned to die in the process or even go to jail?
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| You should be with your family celebrating the imminent return of your savior! |
How can somebody dance on the eve of destruction? Even if we - Bible-believers - know that Yeshua will stop the madness and save mankind from complete annihilation, we find these bittersweet times. Bitter for what is about to happen, sweet knowing we're that much closer to the return of the King to set things right.
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| Why should you or us, try to influence god's plan? If he is going to allow evil to sprout from Germany to try and destroy good, then why are you interfering? |
Just received this from an astute Israeli friend re: Blame Jews for Jerusalem Massacre
You are precisely on target David.
The so called Oslo/Annapolis/Sharm “road maps” of sorts and a variety other named of occasion “peace process” is not something one has to suspend but something we must abrogate. That whole cauldron is a sham.
A war has been declared against the Jewish Nation by the enemies, internal and external and in return we must ELECT a system and people that will adopt a “war process” until the enemies are utterly defeated.
One makes peace WITH DEFEATED ENEMIES, not with ENEMIES attacking our very lives to destroy us.
SHmuel
(Shmuel HaLevi is a Jew, Father, Grandfather, Husband, Teacher, “Gaucho”, radio aficionado and Senior Engineer for the U.S. Department of Defense Avionic Programs who was worked on combat aircraft from the F-16 to the B-2 and from the F-15 to the F-117 to the A.V.-8 and A.H.-64, C-17, C.O.H.-58, C-130 and A.T.F. A (seldom used) Consultant for the Israeli Ministry of Defense, Mr. HaLevi is a U.S. D.o.D. Certified Trainer and Graduation Officer for the Israeli Ministry of Education, writer for the University of Tel Aviv Technology Center, Quality Assurance Engineer and patents holder. Presently, Mr. HaLevi serves as the Laboratory equipment technologist supporting key foreign equipment manufacturers. Mr. HaLevi is a veteran Likud Central committee member and founding member of Hashkem Yisrael).
Comment by David BenAriel — March 8, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
I agree with every word of S. Halevi: My problem is more with you messianincs than with Kahane. Kahane was not a friend to you messianics and viewed you all as a Paganistic threat to the whole Jewish People. Yes his message was to the Jews and he advocated using the messianic Christians as a force in support of a weakend Jewish people . But thats’ it. You want to use us we are willing to use you! But to date except foe a myriad of bloggers who for the most part are mlitant using the blood of Jews to fight their battle in the run up to GOG and MAGOG I don’t see you guys taking on the Muslims in any arena in the World. Why don’t I see a foreign legion of Christian Soldiers volunteering to fight alongside Jews in the war against the evil Islamics. Why don’t I see a couple of million letters and emails going out to evry menmber of congress against 2 state solution, roadmap, anapolis, state Dept.
giving advanced weapons to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Gulf States etc. Is the arming of Israels enemies with your tax dollars in Your christinian messianic plans for the Jews? How are you all going to kill the Jews in the end times when we don’t convert and accept your god on a stick? Thats what you all believe is it not?
Comment by yamit82 — March 9, 2008 @ 6:54 am
FYI yamit82, I am not a “Messianic” and I don’t appreciate your offensive stereotypes. I am a Christian Zionist who believes the plain truth of the Bible, as taught by Herbert W. Armstrong, and am very aware of what Kahane thought about Christianity (and share some of his condemnations against it) but chose to focus on what Torah I can learn from him and even made honorable mention of him in my book, Beyond Babylon: Europe’s Rise and Fall.
Comment by David BenAriel — March 9, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
Furthermore yamit82, instead of questioning where are Christian supporters of Israel and such, Kahane would question WHERE ARE THE JEWS? Why do Jews remain in a self-imposed exile, far away from the Land of Israel, failing to follow Judaism to the Jewish Homeland where they could hasten the redemption - something believed by Jews and Christians.
And Kahane would condemn the continual election of treacherous people and parties to the Knesset and blast the hypocrisy of the religious Jews who hasten Israel’s demise and woefully neglect the Temple Mount. It’s not only Christians who believe in the “end of days,” and it’s not only Christians who believe whoever doesn’t ultimately accept the King Messiah and His Servant Nation Israel must be destroyed.
Comment by David BenAriel — March 9, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
David BenAriel —Sorry to upset, I have enough trouble keeping up with the Jews not less The hundreds or thousands of JC denominations sects,cults and all of their subs.
?I asked a question above which you have not answered. Your book aside for the moment what is your belief that that will happen to the Jews in end times? and what is your belief can save the Jews from their horrible fate?
Is your being Christian Zionist your way of quickening the arrival of those end days and bringing them nearer?
Comment by yamit82 — March 9, 2008 @ 2:23 pm
Shalom yamit82, I gladly answer your question in Christian Zionists, Jews, and Israel but believe we should stay focused on the purpose of this thread and strive to agree where we can find common holy ground.
Comment by David BenAriel — March 9, 2008 @ 2:30 pm