I wrote David Ben-Ariel:
Amazing. Didn't know about it. And from Medad, a decent guy. And I was high on my usual substances when I interviewed Gemma?? And thus, she doesn't exist. Thanks for pushing some truth on this ridiculous lie.
Barry Chamish
24/04/2008 07:47 - (SA)
Johannesburg - Three farm murders took place last week, said AgriSA on Wednesday.
"There have been more than 10 700 farm attacks since 1991 in which more than 1 600 members of the farming community, including farmworkers, were murdered," said AgriSA law and order committee chairperson André Botha.
He said that in the past week Johan Myburgh of Groblersdal and At and Katrien Deyzel of Lichtenburg has been murdered.
"One gets the impression that agriculture and its people are of no importance to politicians."
"However, agriculture is one of the cornerstones of the economy as well as one of the main employers in the country.
"Commercial farmers merely want an opportunity to practise their profession in safety and to contribute towards ensuring that there is enough food on the table for South Africa's people."
Farmers and the agricultural industry should be protected as a "national asset".
Botha said AgriSA had been trying unsuccessfully for more than a year to have a meeting with Minister of Safety and Security Charles Nqakula to discuss farm and rural safety.
The organisation now intended providing President Thabo Mbeki with a memorandum about rural safety at the next presidential commercial agriculture working group meeting which will take place in about three weeks.
"We really want to be a part of this country," said Botha.
Farmers have heeded the call
"If you want to experience ubuntu, you must come out to the platteland."
He said it was only a "very small minority" of farmers who had negative relations with farm workers.
"The majority of relations between farmers and workers are excellent."
Botha said farmers had heeded the call to fight crime.
AgriSA and its members were involved in various anti-crime initiatives and becoming police reservists.
"We are not saying just give us. We take responsibility. We are there as responsible citizen to play our part, but we need some assistance from somewhere."
"When there is a spate of taxi murders every two-bit politician makes comments, but when there is a farm attack, there is no real comment, no one denounces the actions".
Botha said the direct cost of crime for agriculture was estimated at more than R1bn.
Source:News24
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2311179,00.html
Here is a very good summary by Shmuel Berkowitz, pages 4-14.
And this:-
However, before he restricts the freedom of worship, the military commander must examine whether he is able to take reasonable steps which will allow the exercise of freedom of worship while ensuring the safety of the worshippers. As this Court stated:
“. . . Freedom of conscience, belief, religion, and worship is limited, to the extent necessary in order to preserve public security and order. Of course, before any act which could infringe upon and limit this freedom is taken due to a threat to public security, the police should take all reasonable steps at their disposal to prevent the threat to public security without compromising the right to conscience, belief, religion and worship. Therefore, if the concern regards violence by a hostile crowd against the worshippers, the police must act against this violence, not against the worshippers. If however reasonable action by the police cannot, due to its limitations, remove the threat to public security, there is no choice but to limit the freedom of conscience and religion, as necessary in order to preserve public security.”
H.C.J. 292/83 Temple Mount Faithful, at p. 455 (Barak, J.); see also Hess, at paragraph 19.
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A House of Prayer For All Peoples?
Jewish guards prevent Christians and Jews from exercising their religious right to pray on the Temple Mount? That's right! Only Muslims have unlimited access to Judaism's most holy site. Only the Koran is permitted within. The Tanach (Jewish Scripture, known to much of the world as the "Old Testament") and Christian Scriptures (the New Testament) are forbidden. Yet Israel claims to respect the religious rights of all people.Major Upheaval in Israel?
Will an EARTHQUAKE shake Israel to its foundations and rock the world? Would the destruction of the Western/Wailing Wall and the demolition of the "Dome of the Rock" and Al-Aksa mosques—by an ACT OF GOD—serve further notice that it's time to build the Temple?Third Temple Coming Soon to Jerusalem!
"And let them make me a Sanctuary that I may dwell among them" (Ex. 25:8). This holy command in the Scriptures seems clear enough, so what's the problem? Why has Israel tolerated Jerusalem’s "abomination of desolation" — a Temple Mount without a Temple? Why haven't the religious leaders encouraged the people to do what they can in fulfilling this mitzva?The Temple of God in Holy Jerusalem
Paul, speaking of the imminent Third Temple, the holy TEMPLE OF GOD (the Temple of God - not just of the Jews or any other conspiracy theory that contradicts Scripture), that Europe's wannabe divine emperor will pollute, coveting it since Satan knows (even if some religious folks don't) it is the TEMPLE OF GOD...Jews Must Demand Rights to Temple Mount
During a 1995 Root and Branch lecture in Jerusalem, Professor Nahum Rakover, author and then Deputy Attorney General of Israel, publicly agreed with me that it isn't illegal for Christians or Jews to pray upon the Temple Mount, even though it is forcibly prevented by the police.The Issue of the Temple Mount
The common knowledge of our time is that the vast majority of Rabbis of this generation have prohibited the Jewish people from entering the Temple Mount (Har HaBayit), the holiest site in Judaism. The Temple Mount is the site of where the Beit HaMikdash (the Jewish Temple) once stood and the place where the Moslems have erected one mosque, the al-Aqsa and a site of pilgrimage, the Dome of the Rock.Restore Israeli Sovereignty Over Temple Mount
The Wakf, the militant Muslim authority that oversees Jerusalem's Temple Mount, Judaism's holiest site and Islam's alleged third holiest site (following Mecca and Medina) continue to show blatant disregard for Jewish, Christian and biblical history and non-Muslim sensitivities.Where's the Temple On the Temple Mount?
Something's missing. Rome is synonymous with the Vatican, Mecca with the Kaaba, and Jerusalem's known for its Western Wall. But why should we stand before the wall, letting it obstruct our vision, when we could be praying in a Temple? Why should Jews continue to bow before an illegitimate Gentile decree that tells them where to pray? (Isaiah 10:1).The Vatican Must Return the Temple Treasures
The Jews have prayed for 2,000 years to again see the Temple upon the Temple Mount. It's past time for prayers alone: ACTION is necessary to put faith into practice!G-d Doesn't Listen to Jewish Prayers at the Western Wall
Gershon Salomon warned Israel and its leadership that as long as the shameful situation on the Temple Mount continues, and as long as they do not obey the call of G-d, peace will not come to the land. The enemies of Israel will continue to desire her land and will pressure those in power to divide it. Obedience to the call of G-d will bring peace, all of Israel's enemies will be removed and no one will wish to divide or desire the land.Why Edward Abington, Jr. Must Be Investigated!
"The American Diplomat in Arafat's Corner," published in The Jerusalem Report, came as no surprise to me. It was referring to Edward Abington, Jr., the United States' former consul general in Jerusalem who is now "guiding the Palestinians through the labyrinths of Washington. And his firm is being paid $2.25 million for his expertise."Israel's Unjust Deportation of David Ben-Ariel
As a Christian-American member of the Temple Mount Faithful Movement, I had been privileged to participate in their legal demonstrations during my 10-month stay in Jerusalem awaiting dual citizenship. Israeli television often showed me with my Jewish friends carrying Israeli flags throughout the Old City.Blow Up the Mosques or An Expired Visa?
Once again, an attempt to spread DISinformation about my unjust deportation from Israel, only provides me with another opportunity to clearly state my case and continue to highlight the plight of the Temple Mount suffering under a Nazi-Muslim occupation...From Toledo to Jerusalem
You could say I have a God-given love for the Jews and the nation of Israel (Isaiah 62:6-7). That sacred bond has been strengthened over the years by the fact that I've been blessed to have lived all over Israel, getting to know its land and people quite well.Dangerous Ideas?
During my brief appearance before Israel's High Court, the prosecution charged that I hold "dangerous ideas." I suppose the short-sighted prosecution would ban the Bible if he could since it contains the "dangerous ideas" that millions believe in! What are those "dangerous ideas?"American Detained in Jerusalem's Russian Compound
Nobody arrested me. I was detained when I faithfully reported to the police office at 9 a.m. Monday morning, January 9, 1996 (day before my birthday) the day after The Jerusalem Post published on their front page an article shedding light on what they were doing in the dark: "GSS Seeks to Deport American Citizen for Plot to Blow Up Al Aksa Mosque."
----- Original Message -----From: DAVID BEN ARIELSubject: The Issue of the Temple Mount
The common knowledge of our time is that the vast majority of Rabbis of this generation have prohibited the Jewish people from entering the Temple Mount (Har HaBayit), the holiest site in Judaism. The Temple Mount is the site of where the Beit HaMikdash (the Jewish Temple) once stood and the place where the Moslems have erected one mosque, the al-Aqsa and a site of pilgrimage, the Dome of the Rock.
by David Ben-Ariel on Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:35 am
bacht wrote:David Ben-Ariel wrote:Why are you judging me?
Because you sound like every other religious fanatic out there, including Muslim suicide bombers. If you're saying that God is going to punish the Pope, why shouldn't you be called on it?
Violence and hatred are EASY, everybody does it.
If you call yourself a Christian (or a Jew), why not share what is unique in these religions, rather than the same old tribalism?
The Apocalypse of John is the comic book version of religion, a revenge fantasy without mercy. It's usually popular with teenagers and sociopaths.
A House of Prayer For All Peoples?
Jewish guards prevent Christians and Jews from exercising their religious right to pray on the Temple Mount? That's right! Only Muslims have unlimited access to Judaism's most holy site. Only the Koran is permitted within. The Tanach (Jewish Scripture, known to much of the world as the "Old Testament") and Christian Scriptures (the New Testament) are forbidden. Yet Israel claims to respect the religious rights of all people.
Major Upheaval in Israel?
Will an EARTHQUAKE shake Israel to its foundations and rock the world? Would the destruction of the Western/Wailing Wall and the demolition of the "Dome of the Rock" and Al-Aksa mosques—by an ACT OF GOD—serve further notice that it's time to build the Temple?
Third Temple Coming Soon to Jerusalem!
"And let them make me a Sanctuary that I may dwell among them" (Ex. 25:8). This holy command in the Scriptures seems clear enough, so what's the problem? Why has Israel tolerated Jerusalem’s "abomination of desolation" — a Temple Mount without a Temple? Why haven't the religious leaders encouraged the people to do what they can in fulfilling this mitzva?
The Temple of God in Holy Jerusalem
Paul, speaking of the imminent Third Temple, the holy TEMPLE OF GOD (the Temple of God - not just of the Jews or any other conspiracy theory that contradicts Scripture), that Europe's wannabe divine emperor will pollute, coveting it since Satan knows (even if some religious folks don't) it is the TEMPLE OF GOD...
Jews Must Demand Rights to Temple Mount
During a 1995 Root and Branch lecture in Jerusalem, Professor Nahum Rakover, author and then Deputy Attorney General of Israel, publicly agreed with me that it isn't illegal for Christians or Jews to pray upon the Temple Mount, even though it is forcibly prevented by the police.
The Issue of the Temple Mount
The common knowledge of our time is that the vast majority of Rabbis of this generation have prohibited the Jewish people from entering the Temple Mount (Har HaBayit), the holiest site in Judaism. The Temple Mount is the site of where the Beit HaMikdash (the Jewish Temple) once stood and the place where the Moslems have erected one mosque, the al-Aqsa and a site of pilgrimage, the Dome of the Rock.
Restore Israeli Sovereignty Over Temple Mount
The Wakf, the militant Muslim authority that oversees Jerusalem's Temple Mount, Judaism's holiest site and Islam's alleged third holiest site (following Mecca and Medina) continue to show blatant disregard for Jewish, Christian and biblical history and non-Muslim sensitivities.
Where's the Temple On the Temple Mount?
Something's missing. Rome is synonymous with the Vatican, Mecca with the Kaaba, and Jerusalem's known for its Western Wall. But why should we stand before the wall, letting it obstruct our vision, when we could be praying in a Temple? Why should Jews continue to bow before an illegitimate Gentile decree that tells them where to pray? (Isaiah 10:1).
The Vatican Must Return the Temple Treasures
The Jews have prayed for 2,000 years to again see the Temple upon the Temple Mount. It's past time for prayers alone: ACTION is necessary to put faith into practice!
G-d Doesn't Listen to Jewish Prayers at the Western Wall
Gershon Salomon warned Israel and its leadership that as long as the shameful situation on the Temple Mount continues, and as long as they do not obey the call of G-d, peace will not come to the land. The enemies of Israel will continue to desire her land and will pressure those in power to divide it. Obedience to the call of G-d will bring peace, all of Israel's enemies will be removed and no one will wish to divide or desire the land.
Why Edward Abington, Jr. Must Be Investigated!
"The American Diplomat in Arafat's Corner," published in The Jerusalem Report, came as no surprise to me. It was referring to Edward Abington, Jr., the United States' former consul general in Jerusalem who is now "guiding the Palestinians through the labyrinths of Washington. And his firm is being paid $2.25 million for his expertise."
Israel's Unjust Deportation of David Ben-Ariel
As a Christian-American member of the Temple Mount Faithful Movement, I had been privileged to participate in their legal demonstrations during my 10-month stay in Jerusalem awaiting dual citizenship. Israeli television often showed me with my Jewish friends carrying Israeli flags throughout the Old City.
Blow Up the Mosques or An Expired Visa?
Once again, an attempt to spread DISinformation about my unjust deportation from Israel, only provides me with another opportunity to clearly state my case and continue to highlight the plight of the Temple Mount suffering under a Nazi-Muslim occupation...
From Toledo to Jerusalem
You could say I have a God-given love for the Jews and the nation of Israel (Isaiah 62:6-7). That sacred bond has been strengthened over the years by the fact that I've been blessed to have lived all over Israel, getting to know its land and people quite well.
Dangerous Ideas?
During my brief appearance before Israel's High Court, the prosecution charged that I hold "dangerous ideas." I suppose the short-sighted prosecution would ban the Bible if he could since it contains the "dangerous ideas" that millions believe in! What are those "dangerous ideas?"
American Detained in Jerusalem's Russian Compound
Nobody arrested me. I was detained when I faithfully reported to the police office at 9 a.m. Monday morning, January 9, 1996 (day before my birthday) the day after The Jerusalem Post published on their front page an article shedding light on what they were doing in the dark: "GSS Seeks to Deport American Citizen for Plot to Blow Up Al Aksa Mosque."
Watch for the pagan sorcerer-pope to start performing many supernatural deeds, counterfeit miracles, to mislead the masses and get them eating out of his hand to support the Vatican's elect to "defend" Europe and "Western Christian Civilization" and murder any who oppose them.
Daniel 11:36
The King Who Exalts Himself
36 "The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. (Antiochus Epiphanes -- "god in the flesh" -- was only a type of the unholy terror about to be unleashed under the guise of UN Resolution 181).
Acts 8:9-11
Simon the Sorcerer
9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, "This man is the divine power known as the Great Power." 11They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his magic.
2 Thessalonians 2:7-12
7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
Revelation 13:13-17
13 And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. 14Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword (final revival of the unholy Roman Empire of the German Nation) and yet lived. 15He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast (imperial restoration), so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Biblical prophecy announces that the German-dominated European Union will morph into a bloodthirsty BEAST, a politico-ECONOMIC superpower under the evil influences of the Vatican. The Catholic Church will seduce Europe with satanic offers of all the kingdoms of this world and great riches in exchange for enforcing their idolatrous traditions, especially SUNDAY WORSHIP.
Watch for the pope and his "man of the hour" to storm the world stage, to put on a command performance, Satan at his best; the darkest before Dawn prophecies being fulfilled before our very eyes culminating with the real Jesus Christ's return from Heaven to make the diabolical duo history!
This is bad news/good news, as revealed in the bittersweet book, Beyond Babylon: Europe's Rise and Fall.
Obama contributed $25,000 to the United Negro College Fund. How racist! Doesn't he feel everybody deserves an equal opportunity for college? Isn't it racist to assume all non-Negroes can afford college?
Could you imagine if Ron Paul gave $25,000 to a non-Negro College Fund??? Oy veh! The double standards stink to High Heaven, don't they?
| Originally Posted by David Ben-Ariel  The Church of God needs to clarify and make widely known the biblical position on race and grace. |
Yes. God is the author of the wonderful diversity of human existence, and this diversity can only be preserved, and the unique contributions of each group fully realised, within national and sovereign homelands. The cultural marxist (pc) agenda wishes to erase all distinctions of race and gender, and Christians promoting this are fighting God and promoting the doctrine of Babel and Nimrod.
Greyrooster: And how can "We The People" always determine, beyond any shadow of a doubt, what is truth? Are we to put the fear of fascism into the hearts of all, so that none will even dare speak the truth or what is known or believed to true, even if not acknowledged by the powers that be?
And who determines the truth? The corrupt government? A certain political party? A particular church or religion?
Look at the vile Israeli oligarchy and that bloody vulture Shimon Peres who had Yitzhak Rabin murdered and blamed it on the right; Look at Hitler's Germany who wouldn't have tolerated the "lie" that Jews aren't the enemy of all non-Jews.
Whether those in the ghettos, or those in the suburbs, those in the churches or synagogues, or anybody in your local bar, choose to believe this or that is their personal prerogative and personal responsibility - it is definitely not the government's business to think for them, and to "protect" them from real or imagined falsehoods, myths, propaganda, etc.
It's better to respect freedom of speech, especially something you strongly disagree with - and if and whenever somebody says something that can be proven WRONG, then let whoever is miffed, those whose feathers are ruffled, report it or take them to court and go from there - otherwise we'll all be enslaved.
| Originally Posted by william p. homans  we're RELAtED!! those Adamses are my uncles |
| don't know what you mean by collateral, in terms of relationships |
| My family, indentured servants when they came to the "New World", intermarried with the Adamses, and prospered. Abigail is my several-greats aunt. |
| Rudyard Kipling, a white supremacist and English imperialist, wrote "White Man's Burden". |
| And as a human being, I repudiate it |
| I have read everything Kipling ever published. His complete works sit on my bookshelf. |
| I'm curious: is your family name really Ben-Ariel? You say "God-given". |
| But what a strange name for someone who is, or was, not Jewish. |
| May God strike that beam from your eye that causes you to believe that people with one color skin should rule, and those with another color should submit (cheerfully, I suppose you think). May God enlighten you! |
